What are your thoughts on the aria poker controversey did the punishment fit the crime is the casino in the wrong
@Goodshoe they had 2 tournaments one for $25000 one for $150 a guy bought in for $150 and sat down at the $25000. He eliminated 3 people befor aria realized the mistake they escorted him out and banned him but regardless 3 people were eliminated and supposedly not confirmed he was seated by a casino employee again I stress supposedly if anyone wants to refute that please go right ahead
Difficult to comment much without knowing the facts. The intent of the player is perhaps the most important thing here. Did the player know what he was doing (sitting or getting seated at the wrong table in the wrong tournament). If this was a honest mistake, then get banned was completely inappropriate. However, even if seated in the wrong tournament by a casino employee, if the person was savvy enough to figure out that he had been seated in the wrong tournament, then not speaking up could easily be argued to be stealing at $25,000 entry. If the person realized the mistake and attempted to take an almost free entry, I have no sympathy for them.
All that said, it is concerning that - regardless of the players intent - that a casino's control measures are such that this could happen. In a $25,000 entry tournament, it is paramount that you be sure every player has paid what they need to pay. Seems careless that they let this happen. If this was a WPT or similar event, I am somewhat surprised that they even had the events in the same room.
@allin67 to me that's what doesn't make sense how the F do you have 2 tournaments running at exact same time it could be quite difficult even for a good poker room to run 1
I don't work in the industry and never have. But, if I were running a $125 daily poker tournament and a $25,000 WPT event, I think I'd be doing at least two things. First, I'd likely have the events in two different locations. Obviously, I'd need management's support to do this and I may or may not get to enjoy this (but clearly an ideal set up two have two different rooms for two very different events). Second, the proof of buy in would be very different. I don't play many tourneys myself, but can recall being given a paper receipt for some of the cheap dailies I have entered. I think this is fine for the $125 tournament. But for the $25,000 tournament, ideally I'd be using something totally different. Maybe a $25,000 no cash value entry chip. Maybe a laminated ticket that was of a different color and entirely different look as a simple white paper receipt.
Strange: About 10 minutes ago I wrote a trip report on the ARIA that is very negative. Of course the players intent is a factor. However, Aria has to take lots of responsibility for their major mistake. Doesn't sound like they took any responsibility. Their concerns do not seem to include the players. Too bad. They have gone from a great room to one of the worst.
@anubis1 as much as I love Aria and I do love Aria I have to agree they did not do right here plus their poker room is too small they have a need to expand that room it is ridiculous that during the WSOP there are over 50 people on the waiting lists in the very least they should credit the patient players and even maybe start giving $4 an hour in comps
I don't get it at all. Several years ago the Cherokee in Oklahoma used to run huge World Poker Tour events with Scotty Nguyen as their draw - this was before his melt down in the HORSE event and he was very popular and would draw a lot of names like JC Tran, David Pham, TJ Cloutier etc. They would clear off the floor of slot machines and put up so many tables they even had them in the food court. I played in the O8 and my friend played in the big NL events. They always had several tournaments going on at the same time during the day and it happened all the time that people would get mixed up and sit at the wrong table. It always got corrected by the dealers. Some of the NL events would have 800 people or more in them. There were satellites running everywhere and tournaments running all day long - way into the night and next day sometimes.
You were given a seat card and the cards were always a bit different for each event - even the different NL events and they usually had 2 or 3 at different denominations running. The Ring events were 550.00 and up with the others being at 150.00 and 235.00. As you sat at the table - before the first card was thrown - the dealers asked for your cards and I know (because I was at the table when someone sat in the wrong one) if your card didn't match that event, seat number etc. you were asked to leave.
We sometimes went for 4-5 days and played something everyday. It was routine and they always did it.
Aria used the same seat cards for a 150.00 and a 25,000.00 tournament - that wasn't bright. Whether the player did it intentionally or not - I can't say. But I can tell you at the Cherokee people were always getting mixed up in that sometimes chaos of tables, rooms, etc. I just don't get how hard is it to make the cards a different color - or put a symbol at the top or something. The Cherokee always had a bit of something to distinguish which tournament you were supposed to be in, which table, which seat, and the dealers always took about 1 sec to check.
The whole thing is just strange to me that they didn't check the seats, players etc at the tables.
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