Low Roller limit poker trip report Nov 25-29
COSTS
Transportation - Round trip from Dallas on American cost $227 arriving in LV on Friday 3 PM and departing Tuesday at 5PM. One day senior bus pass on arrival cost $2. Cab to airport on departure $20 with tip. I used the free shuttle from Bill’s to Gold Coast (Palms) to Orleans while in Vegas. Total transportation cost $249.
Hotel - I had booked Friday and Saturday at Palms using their cyber offer $56 per night including tax. They waived the normal resort fee of $15 per night. I stayed at Bally’s on Sunday and Monday under a comp offer. Front desk upgrade to North tower diamond for $20 tip. Total hotel cost $132.
Meals - I had 4 buffet comps at Palms that needed to be used by Nov 30. Also used one food court comp at Palms. Used one buffet comp and 3 food court comps at Orleans. Out of pocket food costs about $30.
Miscellaneous - Gave $5 to panhandler who had his dog with him. Lost $25 in VP at Cosmopolitan chasing their $100 insurance promotion for second time. I had won $100 back in September. Total miscellaneous $30
Total trip costs $441
POKER RESULTS
Palms- Played 4 hours of 4-8 HE Friday evening. Tough table similar to Winstar where I normally play. Drop $3 + $2 but freeroll promotion caters to locals. Held my own but then two draw outs and I lost a rack. Net -$100.
Orleans- Played 32 hours over several days 4-8 mostly HE but some O8. Good action mixture of weak tight and loose with a few solid players. Drop is $3 + $1 and nice bad beat plus royal promotions in effect at the time. I netted +$550 over 4 days.
Bally’s- late one night played 2 hours of 3-6 HE. Short handed table of tourists. Drop is $5 + $1 but did hit quads for $50 bonus. Net +$69.
Total poker results net +$519.
DISCUSSION POKER RAKE SAVINGS VERSUS TRAVEL COSTS
I play at Winstar in Thackerville OK at a nine-handed table and the rake is $5 plus $1. They also drop the $1 even with a chop. I assume a $1 tip per hand and 1 seat open on average. In 4-8 limit HE 30-35 hands per hour get dealt. There is an occasional chop and a few don’t reach full rake but most of them do so I use 32 hands per hour for rake.
At Orleans Vegas 4-8 limit is a ten-handed table and the rake is $3 plus $1. I assume a $1 tip and 1 seat open on average. A chop results in no jackpot drop so I adjust the hands per to 31.5 for rake.
For Winstar I calculate 32 x $7 = $224 divided by 8 players w net cost $28 per hour.
For Orleans I calculate 31.5 x 5 = $157.5 divided by 9 players w net cost $17.5 per hour.
For Palms I calculate 31.5 x 6 = $189 divided by 9 players w net cost $21 per hour.
I played 32 hours x $10.50 at Orleans so I saved $336 in rake.
I played 4 hours x $7 at Palms so I saved $28 in rake.
Travel cost (transport plus hotel) $381 - $354 rake savings = $27
Notes:
Booze free in Vegas versus not free at Winstar.
Limit play softer in Vegas compared to Winstar.
Interesting trip report. I have not looked at my Vegas trip costs in this way, sounds like another good way to convince wife I need to go to Vegas because I will save money. Just like the money wife saved buying that sweater that was on sale
@breunigw
My wife actually encourages us to go twice a year. She waits for the best deal, and books it. We are going for 2 weeks starting this Friday, and honetly aren't spending any more than $200 for room accommodations, and another $450 in flight cost. $650 total for hotel and air for 2 weeks - you just can't beat it.
Trick #1 to save tons of money: All those clowns on the street and in the casinos inviting you to do a timeshare presentation...do it. You not only get $100 alot of times (in form of a Visa gift card and yes it is real), but you get free stays at their resort to come back and do a tour a 2nd and 3rd time. They say it is a 1 hour presentation - more like 2 hours - but any one with half a brain that can fight through the high-pressure sales pitch and politely tell them without punching them in the mouth at the end that you don't care for their offer, or their next offer, or any offer...get your prizes and have another excuse to book your next trip.
Trick #2: Restaraunt dot com the crap out of the trip. Know where you are staying, search up the restaraunts in the area, and purchase those $20 or $25 gift cards for $2 or $3 on their website. It's so worth it.
Trick #3: Ensure you always get a players card, especially if you are out of state. Harrahs is giving us 3 nights for free on this trip PLUS 2 free poker tournament entries - just sent us a flyer in the mail - no strings attached. Yes, I'll stay there and play for free in your tournament. Are you kidding me? Now with the free timeshare guest stay plus this we only have 1 week of hotels to pay for, and I won't go into the incredible deal we got on that!
@ meetmeinfrisco: Not to be lazy or anything, but can you elaborate on what restaurants are offering this deal? I'll be up on the 18th.
@meetmeinfrisco
Interesting tactic. Easy enough if you have a spouse that has an interest in going to Vegas. Me....no so much. :sigh:
I like your restaurant.com idea. Will definitely check that out for my next trip.
To the OP, definitely a different trip report. I never thought about calculating it down like that but might do that for my next trip.
Jess