FOLD

You have to fold. Even if the players have 9-9, 9-9 and K-Q off (probably the set range of hands for you since there are no overpairs or better aces, and they have some of each others' straight outs), you are only about 40% to win at showdown. Against most other sets of hands you are significantly worse off. And if you call and lose, it cripples you.

The only times I think you can even consider a call are
1) If you had a huge chip stack (at least 100 big blinds)
2) If it is a rebuy tournament, you don't mind rebuying, and people are shoving really light
and honestly I'm not sure I call in those spots either.

Dave

FOLD. Let the short stacks beat each other up. You're behind and will find a better spot. I wondered if this was a rebuy situation but agree with Dap.

It's unanimous, I'm a donkey. I called; here's my logic (as flawed as it may be). I'm getting short and this gives me a chance to more than double up, and as I'm pretty much in fold or shove territory it may be my best chance to accumulate chips, in one fell swoop. While I'm certainly not leading, I may very well be ahead of 1 or 2 of the all ins, as they're all short and their raising range may be less than AQ. Assuming no one else has an A, or AK (admittedly a big assumption), I have a decent chance of scooping the pot. Even if I finish second, assuming the largest stack doesn't win the pot I'll win a side pot, mitigating my loss. And I'm already invested and, well, it just seems really passive to fold AQ from the big blind when short.

It's the fact there were 3 all ins before me that confounded me. If only 2 I would have folded as I don't think I'd have the pot odds to call. If only 1 I snap call.

Turned out all 3 had pocket pairs, and I did not spike an A.

Anyway, thanks to everyone for your comments. I'm not trying to convince anyone I was right (as I'm not convinced I was right), but I would welcome further discussion as to my thought process.

@illinikris - yes you are in push or fold territory and yes you might win a side pot. But, although 1 of the all ins might be a weak hand, a second shove and a third one indicate that someone has a hand. So, you have to figure that you are behind AT LEAST 1 player. Even if the player that you are behind is the shortest stack, then you are behind for the main pot of 7,500 and the remaining side pots are only 6,000. You have to call 6,500 to win that, so your pot odds aren't that good even for the 2 side pots and you could be behind all 3 players and drawing thin. Given that dynamic in this hand, you should be able to find a better spot to push with your stack.

Dave

Fold! Fold! Fold!

AQ off in good position with more than one player is risky in my opinion....def a fold. Pick a better spot, your risking to much on a 35%-40% chance. I'm not personally a fan of AQ off as I have found through the years that I have gotten into more trouble with that hand then many others I play

@Medic5946 Just to clarify, I meant if you were in good position

even in ak we know to fold

fold, but don't listen to Dap Poker's reasoning. If the 3 all ins ahead of you accidentally exposed their hole cards and you saw that they had 9 9, 9 9, and KQ, you would auto-call because in tourney action you would WANT a 40% chance to bust all 3 of them out and become one of the big stacks in the tourney. Trust me, I'm right on this one. Keep delving in your mind into the things that might happen later in the tourney and the things that WILL happen later in the tourney with a big stack (if your 40%er comes through for you) and with a medium stack (if you fold) and with a small stack (if you call and lose). With a big stack, you have a far greater chance of making one of the top prizes (where all the serious money is) EVEN IF YOU ARE A PASSIVE PLAYER who rarely raises preflop. That's just the way the math works out, regardless of your poker skills.

Easy fold. It's a not a decent investment for you, and it accounts for a majority of your chips. The pay off could be huge if you luck out, but for 3 players to shove, at least one of those players has a pretty strong hand, doubtful that either of them is trying to steal, preflop at that.

Easy fold.

OK, just re-read the original post and I have a question. How do you figure you're short-stacked? Your M is 10 or, if you'd rather use BB, you have 15 left. Or maybe the blinds were about to go up and there were antes?

Maybe I'm playing my stack down too far; but I don't consider myself "short" until my M is 4 or so.

@zzjitterzz that is so very true in tourneys amd evencash games.. go all.in with $65.00 when everyone at the table is sitting on $500 or more how can they fold with almost anything! To me same.thing with 10M / 15 bb or less how can they fold

You have to call $6500 to see a pot that has $13500 in it, for about 2 to 1 pot odds. Against an average collection of hands, you are not getting those odds. Even against 3 pocket underpairs, you're only about a 35% chance to win, since the probability is pretty good that one of the pairs will make a set.

It's an easy fold.

Hmmmm. I was using an M of 5 for shove/fold territory. I don't know where i got that. I may have to adjust.

Thanks to everyone for your recent comments. I pride myself on making good decisions at the poker table. Obviously this wasn't one of them, but darn, I wish at least ONE person approved of my play so I wouldn't feel like a total numbskull. But I posted to get some learned advice, and that I did.

@zingbust - my reasoning was that the BEST we could hope for was something like 9-9, 9-9 and K-Q (and I did have a typo in there which made it harder to understand). We obviously don't know the hole cards, we just know that the best case scenario is that we are about 40% to win everything. We also know that we are going to be worse than that a lot of the time and can be significantly worse than that. And therefore, it is a fold. If we knew we were 40% because the cards were exposed, then I agree we have to take that chance. It's the likelihood that we are significantly worse than 40% to win that makes it a fold.

Dave

Fold all day long

If you're playing at my table, yes, definitely call. Otherwise, fold the hell out of that hand!

I think I would fold everything except for KK or AA here....and I'd give my chips a 'probably-goodbye' kiss before putting them in the pot with KK. There is a small chance the 2nd and 3rd all-in players have 88-JJ, but you have to assume that at least 1 of them (probably the 3rd all-in has KK+.

Absolutely if you brick re enter and you have 10000 it's a win win. But if you don't like to gamble or re enter then it's a clear fold. No real decision. Good luck.

@illinikris you did fine. It's a 125 tourney. The idea is to chip up early any way you can even if it means firing a second bullet. You have to be laggy early on in these daily deepstacks. When you get close to the second break the blind jumps are recockulous. So taking the chance early is ok. Your reasoning was fine my man. Just being here and trying to learn and study shows that you are miles ahead of most of the poker playing public. Trust yr gut. No second guessing. Positive thinking and self prophecy go a long way in these games.it also helps to remember that these dailies are not wsop me's they are just practice for the real thing. I personally like to put myself in tight situations in these 100 dollar tournaments for experience purposes so that when I am in bracelet and ring events I can feel things out and recognize situations much better. Its like wearing new shoes around the house for a few days before you wear em out. Good luck!

Fold and watch. You are about to see how these 3 play. And likely to have less players at the table when the hand is done. The goal is to be at the table the longest ;). You have plenty of chips to make your move later.

Greg has a great out look in his comment