Finally Figured out TI
I've always liked this room, but I've had HORRIBLE luck playing there. Sunday afternoon started out the same. Bought in for $200 at 1/3 NL. Played against a couple of loose cannons who were playing any hand that equalled 10 or more. Finally busted out with QQ against one of those idiots who called my raise out of position with 7/3. He of course turned the set. Came back a few hours later after dinner and calming down. Bought in for $150. The same player sits down shortly afterward to my immediate left. I in turn change seats a little while later and take the seat to his left. He was betting big in late position if there was no raise, and 90pct of the time with junk, so I could call if I had anything decent. I folded otherwise. Most of the money I won came from him. The highlight was when I had 8/7 clubs in the cutoff. He raised it to $12 and I called. Flop comes 6/5/J, giving me an OESD. He bet and I called. The turn is a 4. He checked, I bet 20, the 3rd player in the hand called, he raised it to 40, I reraised to 80, 3rd player fold, and he called. The river was the king of spades, putting 3 spades in the board. He went all in. I had to think for a minute, since he has no problem chasing a flush with A3 spades, but I couldn't put him on that. I had $205 left, and I called. He had a jack and something, both red, so I took the pot. He left after that, down about $225 (he bought in for $500). I left with about $590. I need more of those...lol.
I was there for the action, and must say it was a good call. I was sad to see him go.
I dont mean to be rude but I dont think you figured out TI. I think you had a read on that one person and made a good call but not much more than that.
@joel1968
You do have my permission to refer to me by name.
LOL...Yappy, you only bet when you have two cards in front of you...=). I was able to pick up one important tell on him. When someone played back at him, he had a habit of holding up his cards if he didn't have a good hand. Not high enough for me to see, darn it, but he didn't cover his cards with his hands while he was looking at them like most people do. When he went all in against me, he held up his cards, and I knew he didn't have a flush. I also made the comment that there was only one hand that could beat me (the flush), and I didn't think he had it. I thought I saw him make some kind of movement like that suprised him, but I'm not sure.
Awesome. Congrats on busting out those donks. I hate guys who have real jobs so they play any two cards and call any sized raise knowing that they can always fall back on the money they make at there jobs. I've had tons of moments like that when I was holding a high pair and some guy calls the raise with 7/3ish cards. And when they flop two pair they always act like they somehow "trapped" you and get are hard and proud about it....when in reality they just hit the lottery.
If you will always pay off the goofy two pair or straight with your overpair, then it is not incorrect for them to play ATC against you as long as both of you have enough money in front of you. Loose play is not bad play if the sum of the equity plus the implied odds make for a positive EV situation.
Make sure that you are not broadcasting the strength of your hand with your pre-flop action. Also remember that the game consists of seven cards, not just the first two. The big money is made after the flop, so take care to pay attention to the signs that your opponent is holding up.
Just my thoughts...
Glad to hear you had a good experience in our room! I've seen your posts in the past, and kind of got the idea that you wanted to like our room, but just never did well. And as a player... I know you can "love" a room, but if your luck is never good there, you never want to go back. I also wanted to say a quick thanks for your room review on TI. Especially your comment on the dealers... I'm a bit biased I guess, but as a player and dealer, I really do think we have one of the best groups of dealers anywhere in vegas. And our management is top notch as well as you mentioned. Thanks again, and hope to see you in the room!
@wakka
Not for nothin', but if it weren't for these "guys who have real jobs playing any two cards and calling any sized raise" poker wouldn't be poker, and let's face it, it's "those guys" that keep "you guys" in action, is it not? How often do they really hit those hands, and don't you want them calling your raise with 73os?? Of course you do, and you know it. It just burns the few, (and believe me it's fewer than you think) times that they do actually get there and you remember those bad beats far better than the good cards you played that held up against their bad cards. Just some food for thought. I only added it because my husband plays and has played poker for a living (and a decent one at that) for a solid 15 years, but has played much longer than that and I have heard every bad beat imaginable, but he would still choose to have "those guys" in his all-star lineup of players EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK because they have the ability to re-load.
I mean really...you would never make any money if everyone who played just sat around and waited for pocket perfect cards all the time, and then the minute they bet...fold, fold, fold, fold...how would anyone EVER make any money?? Poker would simply be boring...lol! But somehow I think you already knew that, and you were just venting a little...lol. 
On a separate note...Joel, I'm glad you finally "figured us out"!!! We do enjoy having you around...even if we are slightly "nuts"...lol! See you soon!!
@AsianDave
I know what you mean...I can read better players, and Yappy too LOL...they usually have some method to their madness. I know you have to change it up from time to time, but it gets real old real quick when some idiot plays trash and wins with it what seems like every time he/she/it is in the hand. Suckouts like that are best left at the 2/4 tables...
. The hardest players for me to read are those who just don't care and raise to $15 because it's something to do.
@AsianDave
Dang Danette, you didn't even pick up on the brown-nosing going on?
Was it because..... oh never mind....
@TI Poker
Dang Danette, you didn't even pick up on the brown-nosing going on?
Was it because..... oh never mind....
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Are you kidding??? Why do you think I left it in there when I quoted him? Lol...What do you take me for?
I stand in awe of how intelligent and sharp whitted my supervisors are. Danette & Chris, to instantly pick up on a political attempt to gain favor with either one of you is a testiment to how great your instincts are.
You are not only intelligent managers, but also quite attractive. I look forward to talking to my kids years from now when they read about your groundbreaking management styles in their college business classes.
I would never try to suck up to either one of you giants in the industry, because I know you could read right through it. Thank you for being you.
Humbly yours,
Blockhead
@ti-perry
OH MY GOD! I am literally laughing so hard right now it is hard to type this response.
Very nice hand sir. Exceptionally well played.
First off, let me apologize to Joel for letting his TR thread turn into a TI Brown Nosing thread...lol and secondly I just wanted to note...
That's could possilby be LVM's best tag line yet!!!!
Thirdly...
Slots called this morning, we put in for Perry's transfer to Player's Club Representative...
As long as we're all learning:
@joel1968
You can't turn a set with 73. You can turn trips, or three of a kind, but you can't turn a set.
I'm just saying.
@SKetchEtch
You can't turn a set with 73. You can turn trips, or three of a kind, but you can't turn a set.
I'm just saying.[/quote]
Why not?
A "set" is a three of a kind -
Now I understand some "purest" might say a "set" is only applicable when you are holding a pocket pair and then get the third matching card on the board, but a set is trips thus if I am holding 8,7 flop comes 2, 3, 7 I have flopped a pair, top pair even, then when the turn comes another 7, I have turned a set.
Would someone say I can't win if I say I have a set of 7's in this case? Would they say, sorry buddy but you don't have a set of 7's you only have trip 7's?
I think not....
(this post is 100% tongue in cheek and is meant purely in a whimsical fashion - the owner of this post does not necessarily support or endorse the comments within the post)
I'd be a little shocked to see a dealer argue this point, but a poker room manager? You have to be kidding me.
From the poker term glossary at poker.com (and just about every other poker term glossary I can find):
Set: Three of a kind where a player has a pocket pair and gets a third with the community cards.
Trips: Three of a kind. Usually where the player has one of the cards in their hand and two on the board (eg a player has 8,3 and the flop is 8,8,4).
I don't think you have to be a purest, just someone who knows about poker.
The terminology for particular hands does not control winning or losing. A person can call "quads" with two pair, but he will still lose to three of a kind, just as a who calls "top pair" but actually has a straight will still win against a person who has two pair.
The term "set" means a pocket pair that makes three of a kind with a little help from the board. The term simply does not include three of a kind when two of the three cards are on the board. I presume the hand has its own name because it is a much better hidden hand (and therefore more "valuable") than three of a kind with two on the board.
In your example, with the third seven coming on the turn, you have not turned a set; you have turned three of a kind. The distinction is only important if you care about looking like you know the game. If you only care about saying whatever you want to say, regardless of what others may conclude about you, by all means, call your hand whatever little pet name you prefer.
Sketch never said anything about winning or losing the hand. He was just getting the terminology correct.
I'm sure most of us know that "cards speak" at NLHE in almost every card room.
All of you need to go read the last line of my post... tell you what, let me repost it for you:
now if that did not completely make it clear that I was just having fun and was not serious I don't know what would...
humor: an instance of being or attempting to be comical or amusing; something humorous
but alas it failed...
@Dead Eye
This part of your post made me wonder why in the hell you are telling us something that a) we all know and b) no one is talking about.
@Dead Eye
This part of your post made me agree with you.
@Dead Eye
This part of your post made me think you're an ass, and thus you have redeemed yourself to me.
@TI Poker
No I just don't know what to make of you. If I play in your room this Christmas, I'm going to call you over to clarify the name of each hand I have, half just to bust your balls, but half to test you.
"This part of your post made me think you're an ass, and thus you have redeemed yourself to me."
I think there must be some wisdom in that statement, so, even though I think I have been insulted, I am forced to agree with the sentiment.
@Dead Eye
No, I like people who have some bite to them. No insult intended.
One thing that we can all keep in mind is that the usage of terminolgy changes.
I agree that a set involves a pocket pair hitting trips. But I also have seen over the past few years that the usage of the term has been changing to mean any trips. In large part becaus ethe term was misused, but when it gets misused enough ot takes on new meaning.
A similarly I se ethe usage of the terms "Time" and "clock" merging. Until recently a player calling time was alerting us that he kne wthe action was on him, wante dto make sure that players after him didn't act and was asking us to bear with him a moment while he considered his options. Essentially he was calling "Time Out".
Today I often hear the word "Time" spoken by players who are asking that a clock be called for. At first I resisted this by stariung at themk like I had no idea why they were calling time when they weren't even in the hand. But eventually i gave in partially and no now respond to this with "Are you asking for a clock?" Simply by chronic misuse the word "time" is becoming a way of calling for a clock.
@SKetchEtch
No I just don't know what to make of you. If I play in your room this Christmas, I'm going to call you over to clarify the name of each hand I have, half just to bust your balls, but half to test you.[/quote]
NOW that is funny and I'm up for it! LOL
@SKetchEtch
No I just don't know what to make of you. If I play in your room this Christmas, I'm going to call you over to clarify the name of each hand I have, half just to bust your balls, but half to test you.[/quote]
Can you guys wait and take care of these shenanigans on "Two Ugly Guys" day? What in the heck did you start here Chris???
...Does that mean you're going to get called over to the table if he should attempt to win a pot with a 9-2?:roll: Do you have to know what that's called too? 
@psand
Irregardless of incorrect usage your point is mute.
Actually I've heard people say that set meaning pocket pair is something that came about with hold'em's popularity. In other words draw and stud poker players would call three of a kind a set.
Kind of like how Doyle talks about how the flop used to be called the turn. Or something like that.
"Irregardless of incorrect usage your point is mute."
That's a sentence to make an English teacher cry. I hope it was intentionally tortured.
@psujohn
Irregardless of incorrect usage your point is mute.
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LMFAO