Maybe you should set up shop at all the borders,and international airports and only let people in that can speak and read english.............OR

you can just do what i do and say out loud "english please" more times then not they will stop,and or the dealer will help u out....

Or Engrish prease...

@clamdigger

I think this is not necessary. I am Austrian, so my mother language is german. I really think that anybody who sits down at a poker table in Las Vegas understands the words: English only please.

I played in Vegas a couple of times, somtimes having friends at the table, somebody another person coming from Germany. I like to talk a few words in german with them, but I would NEVER do that while in a hand. Even more I usually even wait until the hand has ended.

@derdeli

Apparently no they don't. I've even seen rules posted in rooms that say "ALl games are English only at ALL times" and yet the players treat the dealer like a piece or garbage when they are asked to speak English. Then the floor is called and now said players go off on the floor saying the dealer is creating a hostile environment, or they are trying to embarrass the player, ect..

I'd say at least 75% of people who are asked to speak English either don't understand it or refuse to listen to what is being asked of them. The players are the problem, not the dealers or management.

@photoc

+1. During the 2009 WSOP, I was on a couples trip to Vegas. At Caesars Palace and Rio, I felt like it was the United Nations. A few dealers tried to enforce the English only rule, but the hostility from those violating the rule made it pretty tough. Frankly, I'm not surprised most of the dealers had apparently just given up the effort.

@photoc

Apparently no they don't. I've even seen rules posted in rooms that say "ALl games are English only at ALL times" and yet the players treat the dealer like a piece or garbage when they are asked to speak English. Then the floor is called and now said players go off on the floor saying the dealer is creating a hostile environment, or they are trying to embarrass the player, ect..

I'd say at least 75% of people who are asked to speak English either don't understand it or refuse to listen to what is being asked of them. The players are the problem, not the dealers or management.[/quote]

While I can agree that players are the ones violating the rule, when management is advised of a situation and allows it to continue, as the OP indicated, then management is to blame.

If a rule is posted and not enforced, at what point do you draw the line? Selective enforcement is more of a problem than not having the rule. If players get to pick and choose which rules to follow chaos will ensue. All rules should be enforced with the same level of vigor.

In my experience regulars are the biggest violators.

Sometimes Dealers are put in a bad situation. They should give the player a warning, but if management does not support the Dealer, some Dealers may be hesitant to raise the issue.

snevman

I played a couple hours today at the Venetian next to a guy I didn't think had ever played in a B & M casino before. Totally silent, and never could get his chips over the line so dealer could reach them. Never could toss his cards from seat 8 so dealer could reach them (I was in seat 9). Couple times he tosses out 2 redbirds with some foreign jibberish that started with an "r". Dealer looks at me, and we shrug, thinking he meant "raise" to $10. Dealer says "make it ten" and seat 8 protests in whatever language he speaks, but no one can make sense of it. He backs down sheepishly and allows the $10 raise. He eventually loses his $200 buy-in and leaves.

English only, peeps....so we all know what you mean.

I agree it does become a real problem at times, but in defense of Derdeli's remark, I played with him when he was in town and the dealers and the floorpeople who back them at that particular place could handle Siegfried & Roy's lions taking seats at the poker table, given some of the feral animals they routinely have to tame every day, so I don't doubt that was his experience on the issue on his visit. And, he and his friends from across the pond were always completely above reproach every minute they were at the table, so they didn't have to do any taming of his group.

@Grange95

+1. During the 2009 WSOP, I was on a couples trip to Vegas. At Caesars Palace and Rio, I felt like it was the United Nations. A few dealers tried to enforce the English only rule, but the hostility from those violating the rule made it pretty tough. Frankly, I'm not surprised most of the dealers had apparently just given up the effort.[/quote]

Unfortunately, many people in front-line customer service position, and that includes poker dealers, do not enforce the rules of their establishment, or even general etiquette, for two primary reasons:

1. They know management won't have their backs if the customer complains.
2. For those in position to receive tips, they fear their income being reduced.

I find this frequently when standing in pine at a store, and the person in front of my has one hand pressing a cell phone to their ear while they are trying to transact business. More than once I have been tempted to speak up in a loud and stern tone "Get off the d@mn phone!" But I have refrained. And I know that in most places, if cashiers tell the person to either get off the phone or step aside until they have finished their phone call, the customer will raise holy hell and management will back the customer.

Certainly it is possible for another player to speak up and ask the dealer "English only, please." But I don't think that the players should have to ask that rules be enforced. Worse, I have seen many instances where the player speaking up is mocked by the rule violator, rudeness piled upon rudeness.

In a place such as Vegas, it's just so easy to pick up your stack and go to another room, it's not surprising that dealers don't push harder on room rules, even those designed to keep games fair. With some casinos operating on such thin margins, and with poker rooms being among the least profitable for floor space, it's not at all surprising that dealers are leery of doing anything that might upset a player. I'm not suggesting that this is a healthy approach--it's never good to let players control the game--just that it is an infectious attitude. Dealers that do control the game well--because good dealing is about so much more than mere mechanics--are sadly too few and far between.

It happens much too often. The rule is English only and the dealers do not enforce it. I can’t imagine why. Yes, we can force the enforcement but why should that be necessary?? It’s the dealers or the house’s job.

@photoc

Apparently no they don't. I've even seen rules posted in rooms that say "ALl games are English only at ALL times" and yet the players treat the dealer like a piece or garbage when they are asked to speak English. Then the floor is called and now said players go off on the floor saying the dealer is creating a hostile environment, or they are trying to embarrass the player, ect..

I'd say at least 75% of people who are asked to speak English either don't understand it or refuse to listen to what is being asked of them. The players are the problem, not the dealers or management.[/quote]
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How can the players be the problem when the rule is the house’s. Problem is everyone wants to do nothing and have others do their job for them. By the bye; the rule is ENGLISH ONLY......, not only when you are in a hand but when you are at the table. The rule is not bigoted it is intended to keep the playing tab;e level.

I agree, but It could be worse. Been to one of the southern California cardrooms? What follows is the comprehensive list of all the rules which are widely understood and regularly enforced at the tables in SoCal:

1. When they start throwing stuff, duck; and,
(b). If they are screaming something in Vietnamese while throwing stuff, duck faster.

2. If the dealer has been injured or killed in the course of #1, run away.

End of list.

Any poker room that often gets people who are used to playing in those SoCal rooms, who are frequent weekenders to Las Vegas, has trouble with rules enforcement. And there are also a number of Las Vegas floor supervisors who came from that environment. I know it's not just that. Rooms that get too cozy with their "regulars" and let some of them start to run the joint can be as bad or worse. Palms comes to mind that way. But I'm just sayin'... it could be worse, and in many places not too far away it usually is.